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Fmr. CEO of American Airlines Calls Full-Body Scanners in Airports
a 'Waste of Resources'
Fox
News
Friday, January 8th, 2010
This is a rush transcript from "Your World
With Neil Cavuto," January 6, 2010. This copy may not be
in its final form and may be updated.
NEIL CAVUTO, HOST: Authorities in Dublin are trying to get
to the bottom of an incident in which live explosives made it
on to a passenger plane. Have you heard about this? Only, this
really wasn't about terrorism. Get this. This was actually a
security test.
Apparently, a passenger unwittingly carried real bomb parts
in his luggage from a flight from Slovakia — the pilot
deciding to fly even after being told an explosive was in the
checked luggage. Generally, that is not good. The incident comes
as the president prepares to release a review of airline security
tomorrow. But will that review go far enough?
Exclusive reaction now from airline industry legend Bob Crandall,
the former CEO of AMR, the parent of American Airlines.
Robert, good to have you. Happy new year.
ROBERT CRANDALL, FORMER CEO, AMR CORPORATION: Hi, Neil. How
are you?
CAVUTO: Very good.
What do you make, first off, of this airport incident in Ireland?
I mean, we have seen a lot of this kind of stuff going on lately.
Do you feel safe flying?
CRANDALL: Oh, I feel safe enough, Neil.
But I just think we're doing lots of things wrong. Maybe the
first thing we're doing wrong is, we're paying way too much
attention to the things that go on an airplane, and we're not
paying not nearly enough attention to the people.
We're not executing well. We're not differentiating between
low-risk and high-risk, and we're not using technology very
effectively. And for all those reasons, the system isn't nearly
as good as it should be and could be.
CAVUTO: Still, I guess the latest salvation for us are these
so- called body scanners that show you in your complete birthday
suit and all of that. And that seems to be the solution for
a lot of folks.
CRANDALL: No. Well, I think...
CAVUTO: What do you think of that?
CRANDALL: I think, look, the body scanners, in the first place,
you can't use today's body scanners, because they take 40 to
50 seconds per person. There aren't enough body scanners. And
if you tried to body scan everybody, you would simply diminish
the ability of the airline system to operate.
Now, there's nothing wrong with body scanners.
CAVUTO: We should say that the scanner's maker says that that
figure's overstated. It would add at best a half-a-minute. But
you're quite right.
CRANDALL: Well...
CAVUTO: If you add all of that together times the number of
people waiting, it's substantial.
But continue.
CRANDALL: Well, but the real — I think the real issue,
Neil, is this. Most of the people that go through security don't
need a full body scan.
Certainly, if we had a trusted traveler program, where people
had been with a — had been — gotten a thorough examination,
a background check before they got to the airport, we don't
need to put those people through a body scanner.
What we need to do is, we need to differentiate between those
people who are a risk and those people who are unlikely to be
a risk. Let's put the high-risk people through the body scanners.
That — now we will have enough body scanners, and, in
fact, we will have enough much more expensive body scanners.
You know, a body scanner is about $150,000. An X-ray machine
is about $10,000. You're not going to use — you cannot
useful full body scanning on everything. And doing so is silly.
It's just a waste of resources and a waste of money.
If you look what the Israelis do, the Israelis use layered
security, four or five layers of security, all of it focused
on the people, not on the things. And they use technology. For
example, if they see a bag that might have a bomb in it, they
put it in a bomb box.
If in fact they spot a bag at the ticket counter that might
have a bomb in it, they're encapsulated within an area. They
don't have to evacuate the whole terminal, the way we did at
Newark the other day.
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